The latest episode of Travis and Jason Kelce’s podcast New Heights exploded in popularity thanks to the duo’s in-depth interview with Taylor Swift. The pop mogul announced her new album, The Life of a Showgirl, and gave what might be her longest and most candid interview ever, clocking in at more than two hours.

Bobbi Althoff has official ended her podcast “the really good podcast” “This podcast started as a dream to make more money… I didn’t know I would fall off as quickly as I did. To be honest, I did think this was going to last a bit longer.” pic.twitter.com/RcXceUUqcJ